Craig Groeschel, pastor of LifeChurch.tv interviews Joel A’Bell, executive pastor at Hillsong Church in Sydney, Australia. Craig asks Joel about the leadership culture at Hillsong. Tremendous and thought provoking insights. For example, every church wants a Darlene Zschech, but everyone can’t develop or create one. Why is that? Well, it comes down to the leadership culture of your church. Are your leaders empowered and released or are they suppressed and controlled?